We’ve reported on Ellis Short’s admirable resolve to move visiting fans away from the Corner of Embarrassment, the south stand spot where – since their numbers are so often paltry – the TV cameras give an impression of a half-empty stadium.
This is the correspondence that has developed at the Blackcats list:
I’ve received a letter today stating that from next season the away fans are going to be housed in the north west upper???? I dont understand why they are moving them there? Why not move them either in crazy corner or above crazy corner? I really don’t get how its going to work?
Not happy in slightest.
I’d sympathise with anyone forced from their preferred position in the ground. Evicting our fans from the crazy corner seems to me the least reasonable course – they generate so much of the atmosphere. Above them would pose an obvious security problem. Are we not in NIMBY territory here? But the away section does have to be moved, somewhere cameras don’t automatically capture them or rather their empty seats.
Yeh I agree with the above the crazy corner is a bit daft haha, but they could have just swapped the away fans with the crazy corner, then it would have been always full behind goal and the away fans out of way of camera. Just annoyed that the home end which Bob Murray said he wanted to be one of the biggest in the premier league at the time is not going to even exist anymore. And we lose our seats in process
The upper tier in the North Stand has always struck me as something of a problem for the stadium in some ways. I’ve been up there several times although it’s not my favourite part of the ground. It’s always bloody freezing even on warm days because it gets no sun. Since that extension was built, it seems to be something of a white elephant because it always seems to be the place that suffers the most when the crowds drop. It’s a shame because it could have been like the Fulwell. There are clearly a lot of die hards who go in there but who are “let down” by the transitory nature of their “neighbours” I think. I’m sorry for people who are being moved against their will though, even if it does mean that the ridiculous situation in the south stand is resolved. I think just about everybody has known that was a daft situation which has persisted for too long.
If there is any suggestion the crazy – or “singing” – corner would be happy where the away fans/fan now sit/sits, great. Otherwise, just shovel them wherever it suits us, just as happens to our supporters at opposing grounds.
Surely it’s only crazy corner due to it’s close proximity to the away section. I would expect the fans frequenting this area to move to the north stand to generate the equivalent atmosphere & antagonism ( is there a significant price differential to contend with?) If my thinking is anywhere near correct a straight swap between the two areas would have made more sense subject to season ticket cost.
What people are talking about is the crazy corner in the SW, and suggesting it swaps with the away fans (crazy folk going behind the goal and away fans going in SW corner) instead of using the NW Upper for away fans – which is the club’s proposal. This idea has some merit, because from the off it would populate the South Stand with proper singing fans, with room for growth from those who would like to join them but currently can’t because the SW crazy corner is full. It would also maintain the proximity with the away fans, although the club & police won’t have the same view of this as the fans do.
But I’m guessing that the biggest consideration for the club will have been the amount of structural changes required to make the move work. It may not have been an easy job to box in the SW corner – which is currently
accessible from the whole of the West Stand and beyond – and (probably more importantly) there would be the consideration as to how you get the away fans past the home fans and into those turnstiles which feed the SW corner.
The NW Upper (which is the proposal) already has a separate entrance. Yo can only get up there through turnstiles which stand away from those feeding the lower tier (and thereby the rest of the gound). It seems to me
that you could march the away fans to the North West of the stadium (past the swimming baths) and into the tower which holds the turnstiles feeding the NW corner, whilst still allowing home fans to access the NW Lower bit
via turstiles on either side (i.e. closer to the North Stand and closer to the West Stand). This would also presumably mean that the only internal partitioning required would be upstairs – between the NW Upper and the
Premier Concourse and between the NW Upper and the North Upper. There would be no need to block off anything in the lower tier, where all the concession stands are and which allows home fans to walk all around the
Over to the Salut! Sunderland jury!