Who are you? We’re Blackburn again

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Boxing Day looms. McCallister’s taken another dive (remember that one against us that fooled Graham Barber?), Big Sam’s got Blackburn off to a winning start of his managership and we’re chuffed after scoring four in successive games.
But let’s hear it for Reidy You’re a Star! That’s how he signs on at the Blackburn Rovers Spammers site, but to Salut! Sunderland he is Mick Roberts*, the first Rovers fan to stand up and say who is he ahead of a game against us. We had some great contributions from DodgyGambit and Vinjay ahead of the Carling Cup and Ewood Park clashes in November, but not from anyone wanting to identify himself beyond fan site
noms de guerre. That’s fair enough, but Mick is especially welcome to these pages. We also have answers from “StLedge”, which we can fairly assume is NOT his real name, so let us get straight into the questionnaire.

Since our first two games, Keane has gone, Ince has been replaced by Big Sam. And we’re both in trouble. What next?

I think it’s going to be tight around the bottom of the table. Christmas will give a clearer indication of what’s going to happen, especially to the Rovers. If Sam gets us up and running quickly, I think we can get out of it. The same could be said for Sunderland, but you have to get the right man in quickly or I think you could struggle. – Mick

Both clubs have lost the managers they had the last time both our clubs met, and both clubs haven’t faired as well as either set of fans would have wanted for their clubs, as the goals set out by the expectant fans, whether realistic or quietly over ambitious, have certainly changed or at the least been put on hold.
What next?? – Getting away from the bottom of the league is no doubt on the forefront of many fans minds, the next 7 to 10 games will be key in the turn around of the clubs’ season, and after that any league climb will be a welcome bonus. – StLedge

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Soapbox: Paradise Regained

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Pete Sixsmith comes over all poetic as he witnesses an important and impressive win over the Tigers

I wouldn’t go so far as to say that the city of Kingston-upon-Hull could be described as paradise, but it was certainly not hell for the happy band of Red and Whites who trundled home along the M62/A1 on Saturday, celebrating a so impressive 4-1 away win.

We won by a similar score in 1976, thanks to the likes of Gary Rowell, Joe Bolton and Jimmy Montgomery. All three are local born legends whose names are uttered in reverential terms whenever Sunderland fans of a certain vintage meet to quaff a few pints. After Saturday, it may well be that 30 years on from now, we will not be thinking local, but thinking French and instead of reminiscing about Joe Bolton’s terriers and Gary Rowell’s impeccable credentials as a Seaham lad, we will be waxing lyrical about Steed’s thunderous shot and Djibril’s pace, power and green Mohican.

Ricky Sbragia (or Spragia as Tyne Tees Useless captioned him last Friday) could not have wished for a better start. This time, he and his co-workers showed exactly what they were capable of by preparing a team to win a game against opposition who were neither monumentally superior to us or so woeful that Shildon Railway would have given them a good game.

Look at the scenario; Hull are on a high after a good draw at Anfield, their manager – a self-confessed Sunderland fanatic – would be desperate to put one over his first and lasting love, they have a full house with kids dressed up as Tigers and men dressed up as Santa, and three more points could put them in a UEFA Cup place at Christmas. And what happens? Sunderland swing into town and give them a real going over.

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Soapbox: From Hull, Hell and Halifax

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Following on from Gary Clark’s excellent piece about supporting Hull City – to read it click here Pete Sixsmith remembers some of the sights and smells of previous matches between the Tigers and the Black Cats

It’s the title of an old Yorkshire folk song that links Hull with Hell, and in it the city on the Humber clearly comes up second best. Hull’s a city that has played quite an important role in my footballing life and, at the risk of upsetting any City fans reading this, I would like to share them with you.

It’s an odd place, a bit like Sunderland in some ways. You never pass though either city to get to anywhere else, unless it’s Rotterdam or South Shields, and both sets of inhabitants can be a little bit chippy. Hull people are fiercely independent, insular to the nth. point and always ready to question whatever decisions are made.

It’s a city built on bloody mindedness. Like Sunderland, it came out for Parliament against the foppery of the Stuart monarchy, it became the centre of the Anti Slave Trade movement of the early 19th Century and it kept on electing John Prescott as one of its MPs. And you don’t get much more bloody minded than that.

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Who are you? We’re Hull

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Who’d have thought it? Gary Clark*, found by Salut! Sunderland at the Hull fans’ site City Independent, certainly didn’t and he’s so Hull daft he’s written a book about them and sold his business to be able to follow them throughout their Premier League campaign. But there they are, the Tigers prowling at the top end of the league, refusing to conform to logic, precedent or Brand Supporter disdain. Which makes it all the harder for clubs like ours; we’d sort of seen this season as one in which the promoted clubs would be so weak that we wouldn’t have a care in the world. Brings back memories of Peter Reid’s two seventh top finishes, including the season when we were virtually safe by Christmas. Gary, like last week’s Baggie, totally ignores the normal format of the Who Are They? series so there is, once again, no questionnaire, though our questions are answered in his upbeat piece….

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For Hull City FC to be in the top six of the Premier League in December is quite remarkable considering this time last year most Tigers fans would have given their right arms to creep into a play-off place in the Championship.

Not that we’re all pessimists in East Yorkshire, we are just not used to winning anything. City havn’t spent much on brasso over the past 106 years, in fact the only picture I have of a Hull City captain holding up a trophy was Andy Davidson holding up the Sunday Mirror Giant Killers Cup in 1966.

We went trophy mad that year by also cramming the Third Division Title Winners trophy into the otherwise empty trophy cabinet. Since then we have toyed with promotion to and from the old second division and back down to the old third and humiliatingly down to the basement league and nearly out of it altogether.

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Soapbox: It’s a wonderful life

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Pete Sixsmith looks at a vital win achieved without a manager, and like Black, Jimmy Stewart and the population of Bedford Falls he decides that football is a Wonderful Life – when you are winning!!

Wasn’t it nice to see and hear a Sunderland manager laughing and joking with the ladies and gentlemen of the press on Saturday? After listening to Mick McCarthy’s often tortured and convoluted attempts to get one over on the media, followed by Roy Keane’s ‘Who are you to challenge me on anything?’ attitude, Ricky Sbragia comes across as an easy going, relaxed kinda guy, who is comfortable with his situation and who just loves working with players.

Some of the routines that Roy brought in, which I gather made many of the players see the SoL as Stalag Keaneo, have been dropped. I would imagine that the management at The Ramside are disappointed and that Durham’s taxi drivers are cursing the departure of the Bearded One, but the decision to allow the players to spend the night in their own beds (or that of someone close to them), seems to have had a positive effect.

For many of us, a night away from home is an adventure, a chance to eat and drink the contents of the mini-bar, complain about the shower head, run up and down the corridor in your underpants and scoff a huge breakfast that you don’t really want but you’ve paid for, so you might as well wolf it down. I guess if you are doing it every week it becomes a bit of a drag.

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Who are you? We’re the Baggies

Paul Hanson is a West Brom fan with a great Sunderland story to tell. His son Mitch, who had overcome serious hearing problems to become a very decent footballer on the fringe of international schoolboy honours, spent a little time at the Stadium of Light under Mick McCarthy and taught Liam Lawrence all he knows (OK, some of what he knows).
Paul, a committed fan of SuperKev, who did wonders for both of our clubs (and especially SAFC), will travel from his home in Lincolnshire to Saturday’s vital game with Mackem friends.
In a departure from our usual format, there is no Q&A this week. This was not intended. But Paul, for all his tireless work these days for the community, must have been one hell of a back four blocker during his own football playing days, if his resolute defiance of the customary list of questions is any guide! As it happens, most of the things we ask each week are fully answered in his article, so nothing is lost. And we have split his engrossing piece into two, making for a longer section dealing with his history as a fan* but starting with his comparisons of Sunderland and the Baggies …….

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On our websiteWBAZONE (which is where Salut! Sunderland found Paul; check it out) – Sunderland are often singled out as an example of the kind of money required to outlay in terms of both transfer fees and wages in order to have a decent chance at Premiership consolidation.

Thoughts on your (newly departed) manager varied widely with some seeing him as a “Keeganesque” type manager likely to walk when under pressure while others saw him carved from the same piece of granite as his mentor Alex Ferguson and here for the long haul.


I guess those with the Keeganesque take were on the money.

Both teams are lacking in confidence at the moment and it seems that while our styles of play are very different our weaknesses are very similar.

After a fantastic battling display at Old Trafford, the pressure will be on the home side to attack and take three points from what already looks like a crucial fixture.

You have made some really good signings over the last couple of years with Jones and Richardson being possibly the best. On the other hand money has undoubtedly been wasted on the likes of Chopra (Earnshaw Mark II) and Gordon and you’ve probably paid too much money for average players.

Whether or not you can avoid the drop will depend largely on the quality of Keane’s replacement. Unless we can sign two quality players in January (particularly a striker) I think our future looks bleak.

There are many links between the clubs.

Recently paper talk was that Whitehead was on our radar. I’m aware he took some stick after the Bolton performance, but whenever I’ve seen him he has been a genuine wholehearted player even if his ability is limited.

We need a quality midfielder who can tackle and that has leadership qualities he almost fits the bill but not quite.

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Richardson – pictured by Peadar O’Sullivan -on the other hand is a quality player when fit. He was definitely the difference in our “great escape” season bringing badly needed power and pace to our midfield. It was a major disappointment that we failed to sign him I guess our loss is your gain.

For me having been raised in the Midlands the real Derby is with Villa. Having been surrounded by Villa fans at every school I attended, and living for sometime in their heartland, there is absolutely no question which club I most love us to beat.

One thing being in a minority in your youth does is build character and prepare you for the challenges of supporting one of the countrys most frustrating teams! Bizarrely my son considers the Wolves game far more of a derby but that has much more to do with the geography of his upbringing and the fact that recently Wolves have been more frequent visitors than Villa due to our yoyo status.

The most recent link between the clubs is the superb Kevin Phillips. I well remember a game against Sunderland in our first promotion season. We completely ran the show and could easily have scored four or five, but the game ended in a 2-2 draw thanks to SKP’s two shots, two goals. I always considered him a quality striker and he did an absolutely fantastic job for us. Not replacing him during the summer window may well prove the difference between survival and relegation for ourselves.

The club vs country debate holds no dilemma for me. I rarely if ever watch England games and go along with Frank Skinner’s take that our club will always come first and for me by some considerable distance.

The Stadium of Light is a superb ground and often a happy hunting ground for ourselves. I remember the game during our promotion season (2003 I think) when Lloyd Dyer sprinted the length of the pitch to give Koumas the ball that won us the game after being under the cosh for long periods. I was approached on the way to work the next day by a Mackem taxi driver who insisted that even Dick Turpin wore a mask!


My son Mitch, then 15 (he’s now approaching 18), trained and played there when Mick McCarthy was in charge as he was recommended by Mick’s cousin who was also his coach.
At the time he was on the fringe of the England boys (disabilities) team as he is profoundly deaf but unfortunately got sent off in a trial game having scored twice and was considered too volatile.
Liam Lawrence took him under his wing (he still insists Lawrence uses the corner techniques he showed him!) and therefore will always have a soft spot for your club. He still speaks fondly of MM and Liam and to a lesser extent Julio Arca although he felt the remainder of the players were very aloof. He found the training facilities and ground second only to Man Us which is quite a compliment.

Having dated a girl from South Shields for over two years. I know the area and people well and there’s no doubt it’s a great friendly place to visit. We are travelling to the game with two Mackems from our town (yes, there are plenty of you even here!) who saw us last season at Peterborough and thought we played top class football. It should be a lively trip and the journey home could prove interesting!!


My Prediction: Sunderland 1 West Bromwich Albion 1

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King Charlie the Great? No. Charlie the greatest

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CHARLIE HURLEY: “THE GREATEST CENTRE HALF THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN”...Mark Metcalf (Sportsbooks)

Mark Metcalf will, I hope, forgive me for having started his book on Charlie Hurley on page 187.

It was not that I had no interest in the earlier chapters.

When I got round to them, I devoured them, too. Metcalf offers a comprehensive account of Charlie’s early life and cannot be faulted for lack of detail about a brilliant career played predominantly outside the top flight. But what I really wanted to – had to – read first was Chapter Thirteen: Bust-up with Baxter.

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Soapbox: nearly but not quite

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It was an extraordinary game in which Sunderland defied the might of Old Trafford for nearly 91 minutes until a lucky deflection, followed by the kindest of rebounds, gave Man United their winner. Forget Setanta, this is the Salut! Sunderland analysis: forget Craig Burley’s hard-of-thinking bombast, trust Pete Sixsmith to do the story justice…..

We nearly got away with it. For 90 minutes, the alleged giants of world football had huffed and puffed and threatened to blow our house down. Just when we thought we had seen off the big bad wolf, they had one last blow and with the help of a friendly post they got the winner that they probably deserved on the balance of play.

But didn’t we do well? The game plan was dead simple: stop them scoring by getting all 10 outfield players behind the ball and then if we get it, kick it away as far as we can.

It reminded me of games of Attack and Defence we played as kids, where the object of the game was to prevent a score. After a period of being a defender and hoofing the ball on to the Black Path, you would then become attackers and try to score a goal past Dennis Robinson or John Taylor – or in my case, hoof the ball into the adjacent tennis courts. It was a “skill” that United’s attackers replicated perfectly.

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Soapbox: the Highs and Lows of the Keane 100

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One Hundred Years to the day since we beat Newcastle 9-1 at St James’s*, Pete Sixsmith takes a look back at Roy Keane’s One Hundred Days at Sunderland ….
(* scroll down or click here to read Colin Randall’s heart-warming account of that famous victory)

As the Keane era ends, I thought it might be a good idea (and a chance to recycle some old comments) to look back at the Roy Keane Highs and Lows. Things that stand out for me are, in no particular order:

Derby and Leeds (away); I think it made us realise that we had a manager who could bring in decent players (Miller, Kavanagh, Wallace, Connolly) and that he could encourage them to play simple pass and move football. Great away followings too.

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